TV Star Escapes 20 Years in a Cult | Ep 078

💥 In this eye-opening episode, we speak with award-winning actor Dar Dixon (known for roles in This Is Us, NCIS, Scandal, Silicon Valley, and more) about his extraordinary life journey. Dar shares his shocking 20-year involvement in the Eternal Values cult and how he eventually broke free to build a successful acting career in Hollywood. This powerful conversation explores vulnerability, manipulation, and the human capacity for resilience and reinvention.

👩🏻‍💻 Dar's Website: https://www.dardixon.com/
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Chapters: 

00:00 - Hosts Introduce the Episode
00:44 - Stacey Discusses Cult Vulnerability
01:16 - Hosts Joke About Love Bombing
01:34 - Introduction to Dar Dixon's Career
02:51 - Official Podcast Introduction
04:01 - Dar's Background and Iranian Revolution
05:31 - Dar's Football Injury and Vulnerability
06:19 - First Encounter with Frederick Von Mears
07:54 - Size and Structure of Eternal Values Cult
08:40 - Frederick's "Walk-In" Claims
09:54 - The Gem Scam and How It Worked
11:04 - How People Get Drawn Into Cults
12:11 - Communal Living in Manhattan
13:55 - Criminal Activities Within the Cult
15:31 - The Police Beating Incident
16:19 - Returning to Parents After Escaping
17:41 - Frederick's Death and Murder Cover-Up
19:24 - Getting Kicked Out and Deprogramming
20:46 - Breaking Into Hollywood with George Burns
21:57 - Dar's Experience on NCIS and This Is Us

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Transcript

00:02 - Stacey (Host)
Mark Yo, that was phenomenal right. 

00:05 - Mark (Host)
No, it's weird, Like I feel like when we do intros we're always like, oh my God. But it's like every episode is. It has that, but wait a second. This episode, this episode we're talking. There's tons of Hollywood stories. Yeah, there's an Iranian. I like the Hollywood story the Iranian revolution. 

00:23 - Stacey (Host)
Revolution. Yeah, that's in there, but wait for it. 

00:27 - Mark (Host)
This is your favorite. 

00:28 - Stacey (Host)
Oh my. 

00:28 - Mark (Host)
God. This man was in a cult for 20 years, more than 20. 

00:32 - Stacey (Host)
What was it called? 

00:34 - Mark (Host)
Eternal Values, I think. 

00:35 - Stacey (Host)
Eternal Values. 

00:36 - Mark (Host)
Cult. This is the story of somebody meeting someone randomly and for the next 20 years, this person's in a cult. 

00:44 - Stacey (Host)
That's crazy, crazy. Well, I think, in order to agree to be in a cult right, or in order to like be, I guess, open to the whole cult experience. These are people who are coming from a place of extreme vulnerability vulnerability yeah, dar was talking about that and the need to belong. Like all the things, seems, seems so scary when you think of people who are in cults. But if you have a lot of self-esteem and you're happy and things are good, most likely you won't end up in a cult Probably immune. 

01:16
Yeah, I mean you might not be immune, especially because all the cult leaders start off with that heavy love bombing which we all know we love. 

01:22 - Mark (Host)
I love it. You're amazing. 

01:24 - Stacey (Host)
Would you stop it? I know that's fake, it's from the heart Fake love bombing. Because you never say that to me off camera, never tell me I'm amazing. Can we talk about? 

01:34 - Mark (Host)
that I feel it. Why don't you ever? Anyway, dara Dixon, that's a different intro. That's enough about us. Dara Dixon, he's been nominated for Best Actor, like you probably know the guy. You've seen him in some of your favorite shows. Yeah, he's been in. 

01:47 - Stacey (Host)
This Is Us NCIS, los Angeles Days of Our Lives. 

01:52 - Mark (Host)
Yeah. 

01:52 - Stacey (Host)
What was the other? There's another. 

01:53 - Mark (Host)
CSI, csi Scandal. He was in Scandal Silicon Valley. 

01:57 - Stacey (Host)
Yeah, and he's a very successful actor. 

02:00 - Mark (Host)
I really want to ask him about that. And then, behind the scenes, before the success in Hollywood, he was a cult member. Like it's crazy. You gotta hear these stories of how it went down, the things that he did, why he got out, how he got out, the people he met, crimes, murders oh my god, there was a murder. There was a murder. I forgot about the murder and apparently the internet doesn't even know about this murder. 

02:22 - Stacey (Host)
I know Well about the murder and apparently the internet doesn't even know about this murder. I know Well. 

02:25 - Mark (Host)
I'm not even sure we're supposed to be talking about it to be honest, like I can't believe you said what he said. Yeah, I know. 

02:28 - Stacey (Host)
I want him to name the person If you love good stories, but also if you want to learn how not to be in a cult. 

02:39 - Mark (Host)
Yeah, this is it. 

02:40 - Stacey (Host)
Yeah, enjoy, I think people will enjoy. 

02:42 - Mark (Host)
Oh my god. 

02:42 - Stacey (Host)
I love him Because he's also Like a cool dude. 

02:44 - Mark (Host)
He's so much fun, right, I totally want to hang with him. 

02:48 - Stacey (Host)
Dara Dixon. 

02:49 - Mark (Host)
Now, but not then. 

02:51 - Stacey (Host)
Yeah, well, who knows, he probably was really fun then too. He probably was, but he was in a cult. So he's not going to. He can't rub off on you. 

02:57 - Mark (Host)
That's fair. 

02:58 - Stacey (Host)
Do you think it would have it? Oh my God, you might have been in a cult with him. 

03:01 - Mark (Host)
He might have love bombed me. 

03:01 - Stacey (Host)
Because you guys really did enjoy each other. 

03:03 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
He's a good dude, I could tell that. 

03:04 - Mark (Host)
We talked before, I felt a little left out. We're bros, we're cult bros. I have to be honest. 

03:07 - Stacey (Host)
I have to be honest, I felt a little left out. You guys were really enjoying each other. 

03:16 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
That's fair, and he was talking. 

03:20 - Mark (Host)
And I am Mark, and this is the Guru's Game Changers podcast. Hey, welcome everybody. So I'm not sure where to begin. So, after more than 30 years in Hollywood, garnering multiple Best Actor nominations for works on shows that you know, like CSI, this Is Us Scandal Silicon Valley. Today's guest, dardickson, is a name and a face that you likely know, but there is so much more to him that you likely don't. At 22, he joined a pseudo-religious apocalyptic cult that would, unfortunately, control the next 20 years of his life, until he managed to escape Dar. What's up, buddy? Thank you, it's good to talk to you again, hi Dar Dixon, thank you for joining us. 

04:01 - Stacey (Host)
Wonderful, yeah, thank you, thank you I don't even know where to start, but I guess I'm going to start with when you fled the Iranian revolution at 15. Yeah, and then you spent 20 years in a cult. Maybe start there and just explain what happened. 

04:14 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
I was born in Tehran. I'm half Iranian. My dad's side of the family, my mother's side of the family, is a white woman of English, Irish and Welsh origin and she's from Southeastern Idaho, very kind of stoic, and she was a Mormon. Believe it or not. We had a very charmed life I will say that and got word that things weren't going well. And my dad says to me well, look, son, we're going to put you in boarding school in the United States. 

04:41
My brothers, my mother and I we all left together got to the hotel room. My mother gets a phone call and she comes out and she looked like she'd seen a ghost and she's just completely white. And she says boys, we can't go back. What does that mean? You can't go back, we can't ever go back. We're going to be here, we're going to get a house, we're going to start going to school and that was really the end of it. It took my father another year, a little over a year, to get out of the country and I was just sure every day he was going to get killed. But I didn't have the words, I didn't have the emotional maturity. I probably still don't, and it was a tough time Interesting. 

05:22 - Stacey (Host)
There's a whole bunch of stories just from that experience. But should we just fast forward to the cult? Yeah, what happened? How did that happen? 

05:31 - Mark (Host)
I zigged when I should have zagged and it just happened, Stan to happen, to meet this person. 

05:36 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
Yeah, I played Division I football at Bowling Green State University in Northwest Ohio and I got a really bad concussion and that concussion changed the trajectory of my life. From that point forward I really had trouble concentrating, I had trouble with like emotional regulation, didn't feel like doing anything all these telltale, classic symptoms of concussion. I guess it was three years or something. After that, whatever, I had a job at this really nice restaurant in San Diego. People came from all over the world to have dinner there and I found this restaurant Happened to be run by the Hare Krishnas and it was all vegetarian and you could eat all you wanted for like $3. 

06:19 - Stacey (Host)
It was ridiculous. 

06:21 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
I went there and these guys said hey look, you don't have to pay, you can work here a couple hours a week, okay. And so I'm working there and one day and this guy comes in and it's it's Fred. I call him Freddie, I'll tell you why in a second. And he's goes by Frederick Von Mears, and he was a whole thing. You know bleach blonde hair, deep suntan, very handsome guy. He's got these gold rings on with these massive gems on them. He's got these beads and crystals and red coral necklaces that you kind of see through the shirt he's wearing and just crackling with energy. 

06:58
My first thought when I see him is who's this asshole? I went out there and I sat down at the table with him. I'm like I can't believe I'm doing this. I plot myself down and he says you know, he takes his hand and reaches for mine and I remember he grabs my hand and it was like this guy's unbelievably strong. He was about six feet tall, he's about 145 pounds maybe 5% body fat and strong and he just looks into my eyes. He asked me when I was born, my birth date, the place, the time. Next thing, I know I'm getting read my astrological readings and to me that was the kind of crazy, that was the brand of crazy. That was what I needed at that time. He was hilarious, he was charming, he was intelligent, he was witty, he was fast thought, quick on his feet and he was also completely full of shit. 

07:51 - Mark (Host)
Yeah, there's always that. How big was the cult, if you will. 

07:54 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
When I got involved it was relatively small. It was probably a core inner circle group of about 10 people and the bigger group was maybe 25 people, it was 84,. Man, it was the rage. Remember Shirley MacLaine had out on a limb. Yuppies were the scourge of america. Cocaine was everywhere. Greed was nuts, wall street, the movie right. 

08:19
Different time, his hustle, his angle was he was a walk-in from the planet arcturus newsflash. It is not a planet, it's a sun, right? Second thing was it was the 80s, we didn't have the internet. Remember fair, wow, right on bro. Um, then he said that. 

08:40
So the conceit is a troubled soul. So let's say me, I'm feeling suicidal, I don't want to be here. Some catastrophe has happened in my life, whatever it is, and I just don't want to be here. Some catastrophe has happened in my life, whatever it is, and I just don't want to be here. Somewhere from the cosmos or the beyond, as he liked to call it would notice that an exalted soul would step in or walk into my body. He said that's what happened to him in the 70s. All complete BS. But I mean Freddie attaboy, that's pretty good, that's pretty good rap right there. 

09:15
And so he called himself a walk-in and he would find out what your birthday was, find out what your astrological sign was and here was the biggest hustle at the time. He would prescribe gems. Now he would go and get gems and I have an idea how he got them I'm not 100% sure, it's not important anyway and he'd buy these inferior gems and sell them to you know, stacey, would come up to you and go oh dear, you know, you must have an imperial precious topaz, make you fabulous and, just you know, iron out all your niches. This is how he talked. Oh yeah, trust me, he was outrageous. 

09:53 - Stacey (Host)
Your niches? 

09:54 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
Yeah, and he would sell you this imperial, precious toe pass. Oh dear, it must be three and a half, four carats. You look fabulous on you, and he would charge you $10,000 for it Wow. Now if you go back to a jeweler and try to sell it the next day, or a year later. I'm sorry, stace, it's pretty worthless. 

10:12 - Stacey (Host)
Yeah, it's worth nothing. 

10:13 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
It's worth nothing. 

10:14 - Stacey (Host)
So that was his angle. 

10:16 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
So he's selling gems, he's selling these necklaces, he's selling these life readings. People are going nuts, so he's like, well, I've got more to sell. 

10:27 - Mark (Host)
So herbs, supplements, a diet. So these people, they wanted to believe it, obviously, but at some point do you feel like you wanted to believe this as well, or you wouldn't have been in, you wouldn't have been. 

10:36 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
Oh, absolutely so. So the question you're really asking me I'm hearing, maybe I'm wrong is how the hell does this happen? Because you don't seem like a whack job, right how the hell does this happen? I wouldn't go to second half I mean, yeah, you don't seem like a black job. Let me restate. 

10:53 - Mark (Host)
No, but I mean, that was one of my first questions when I start, when I first heard about you or anybody who gets involved in something like this. 

11:00 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
How does that even? 

11:00 - Mark (Host)
happen. How do you believe this guy? 

11:04 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
This is the answer. No one raises their hand and says, hey, I want to be in a cult. You meet someone, you meet a group of people, you meet a couple people, you meet the person themselves like in my case and you get love-bombed. That's the first thing. You're so fabulous. You're so amazing, mark God. Your arms are so muscular. Jeez your hair. I mean it's amazing. You have the hair of a 20-year-old Stacey. I swear to God, I can just smell the amazing coming off of you and you're laughing. But when you're in, you usually get-. 

11:40 - Stacey (Host)
No, I get it. 

11:43 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
You're in a vulnerable place is usually what happens, and what happens is there's an-. I get love bombing. 

11:48 - Stacey (Host)
Right. 

11:50 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
That's how they get their hooks in you? 

11:51 - Stacey (Host)
Are you living with him? Like what is a cult? Like are you in a place where everyone's together all the time? Because I know I've seen a couple of them. Just recently I saw a documentary on Mother God or something, I forget the name of it, but they all lived in the same apartment and they just hung out together constantly and just worshipped her, for really no reason. 

12:11 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
It's different for every group, but, yes, it is very communal. And if it's not in the actual same space, you are in the same geographic, if not county, if not city, if not zip code, if not building. And that's what we were. We were in Manhattan. Over the course of the time that I was there, the five years in Manhattan, we got about five or six apartments and we would do them up all the same way. They looked surreal. You know everything. 

12:45
All the walls were sanded perfectly, they were painted in a high gloss, deep purple, violet blue, the ceilings were green, the tray molding was pink, there were crystal lotuses, there were flowers real and fake everywhere. There were ionizers going, there were air purifiers going, there was this ethereal music playing in the background. And you walked into this apartment the first time. You're like, oh my God, where am I? So to answer your question, we were together a lot. You know, up in the loft there were between five of us and at one time I was living with 15 people. People were always coming and going. Frederick was always going out and hustling people in to see what he could get out of them because, you know, like nation building, it only works if you have slave labor. 

13:38 - Mark (Host)
Something a lot of cults have in common is they devolve into physical abuse, into sexual abuse, into crime, into confrontations with law enforcement. Oh yeah, we've seen it over and over. How much of that did you see? How bad was it, how prevalent was it. 

13:55 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
All of it. It was bad. I saw and was involved in a lot of stuff. Quick side note One of the biggest things hurdles any person in a cult has to overcome is dealing with the fact that you were party to criminal acts sexual criminal acts, theft, violence, whatever it may be right and you didn't say anything because you were afraid to say something or because you knew it could cost you your life or your safety or your well-being. 

14:28
You know we all do some stuff we regret. So every cult always starts out as this grand idea and it always eventually slides. Hate speech, racism, misogyny, patriarchy, sexual crimes, financial crimes, assault, stockpiling weapons, stockpiling food, stockpiling power, anti-government rhetoric nothing new, it happens all the time. The thing that finally kind of the lights came on this was late 1996. It was a simple traffic stop. Couldn't pull over these windy roads in the Western hills of North Carolina and we drive a quarter of a mile from the restaurant we left to this lake house that we inhabited. When we finally parked in the driveway, the cop comes up to the window, grabs my friend, rips the door open, grabs him, pulls him out and just starts beating the hell out of him with a bag flashlight. 

15:31
That just devolved into a horrible beating of my friend and myself, and that's when I was like, okay okay time to leave and the thing that really caused me like, okay, I'm going to be in trouble, Okay, I've got a lot of you know the law's coming after me. I could do jail time, all this stuff the thing that bothered me the most was the betrayal of my friends. 

15:55 - Stacey (Host)
I'm confused, I'm sorry. So wait. So someone pulled you over. Was it a police? 

16:01 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
officer. 

16:01 - Stacey (Host)
Police officer pulled you over and beat you. 

16:04 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
Correct. 

16:04 - Stacey (Host)
Then that became too much for you and you said, okay, this is getting too incendiary, I got to get out. 

16:11 - Mark (Host)
Oh yeah, oh yeah, where did you go? 

16:13 - Stacey (Host)
Yeah, what'd you do? What's the next step? I? 

16:15 - Mark (Host)
came back to California, and to whom? To someone. 

16:19 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
My parents showed me more grace than I deserve. 

16:22 - Mark (Host)
Yeah, how old were you at this point? 

16:25 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
I was 35 at that point yeah, 35 years old, completely lost. 

16:33 - Mark (Host)
Yeah, I'll bet A hot mess inside. 

16:35 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
I still took me another three years before I could say I was in a cult. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like people had said it to me over the course of time. But you know, when you're brainwashed, you just shut that down and you just put it in a dark place where you don't have to see it Right. 

16:51 - Stacey (Host)
That's why they I guess courses or whatever. Just real quick. How did Freddie die? 

16:59 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
He died from AIDS. Here's the truth. The truth of the matter is he contracted AIDS and he was withering away rapidly. He was extremely. He was emaciated from. I think he'd gone down to like 95 pounds. He was conscious, but he was not really compass mentis. Uh, one of the guys who was the leader of the group at the time and one of the other guys who was approximately frederick's age had concocted this plan to just keep giving him morphine until he asphyxiated. Right, yeah, it didn't work in time, and so one of the two decided that it would be most merciful to smother him, to kill him, and that's exactly what they did. 

17:41 - Mark (Host)
No way. 

17:42 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
Yep. That's what they did, and they immediately. I don't know how he did this. I don't know how this guy is Machiavellian. He is a deeply troubled human being. He had the body cremated, which is against North Carolina law, before the medical examiner could see it and do an autopsy report, so there would be no signs of a struggle or smothering. The teeth would bruise the upper lip, maybe the nose cartilage might be broken or misshapen. These type of telltale signs Crazy, did this happen? 

18:13 - Mark (Host)
You saw this happen. 

18:14 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
I didn't see this happen. No, this happened. This happened in the. This happened in 1990 and I had been kicked out in 1989, in March of 1989. 

18:24 - Stacey (Host)
So you were kicked out. 

18:25 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
They kicked me out, yeah. And then Freddie got upset with me because I started to catch on to this gem scam unknowingly. This is me putting the pieces together after the fact, and he kicks me out in 89, come back to Southern California, start to rebuild my life the best I can. Still not aware that I was in a cult. I'm thinking, oh my God, I've ruined it. He used to say you've blown your one chance at liberation. You won't have this chance again for 25,000 incarnations. Oh my gosh. And then I went back and they were in North Carolina. I was with them the whole time, but this first time, from when I met him in 84, all the way until when I finally was able to go. God, you got a bit of a problem. You're in a cult. That was the year 2000. 

19:11 - Mark (Host)
Wow, I still can't get over that. You know that he did not die from AIDS, because the Internet says he died from. 

19:17 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
AIDS. Well, yeah, well, I mean, they buried it. 

19:19 - Mark (Host)
For our listeners. The cult. The name of the cult was Eternal Values. Is that? 

19:22 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
correct. Yeah, the Eternal Values yes. 

19:24 - Stacey (Host)
So if you want to look it up and learn more, so you, you got out, your parents were super and you went to live with them. 

19:30 - Mark (Host)
You had to deprogram. 

19:31 - Stacey (Host)
It took you three years to even talk about what happened to you, but in the meantime you were acting. But in the meantime you were acting. 

19:38 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
That's the thing. Yeah, I could find love in this circle of artists, and for me that was acting, and so I dove into it. 

19:49 - Stacey (Host)
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20:10 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
And it's not therapeutic, let's be honest. But it's very therapeutic to be able to pretend that I'm, you know, stacey, for example. Therapeutic to be able to pretend that I'm, you know, stacy, for example, and affect your mannerisms and act as you and make it believable. That's not easy to do. I mean, look at you, look at me, right. 

20:27 - Stacey (Host)
Yeah, but you could do it. 

20:29 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
But you do it and so that's what I did and I got involved in it and you know I've been very fortunate. I've had a decent career. 

20:38 - Stacey (Host)
You're a working actor. You've worked in a lot of shows that everyone's heard of, so what was the first show that you auditioned for that people would know of? 

20:46 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
There was a gentleman named George Burns. 

20:49 - Stacey (Host)
He was about four foot 11, always smoked a cigar. 

20:52 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
I did a job for some massage I don't remember what it's called a little massage tool, and we shot it up in Beverly Hills. I was so nervous. I walk on set and nobody tells you anything. And there's George Burns. 

21:06 - Stacey (Host)
Oh, my God. 

21:07 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
And he comes up and he's like hey, kid, how are you? And I'm 6'3". George is about 4'11", maybe 5 feet, and he's looking at me and I'm like you all right, kid, hi, mr. You all right, kid, hi, mr burns. We talked a little bit and he says you're gonna be all right, you're gonna do good in this business, kid, and he puffs a cigar and he walks off and he's awesome and they leave. 

21:28
Well, amazing my first audition, my first real audition, because I didn't consider that a real job, but it was. Let's be honest, yeah, my first television audition was for a show called silk stockings. I remember that and yeah, it was late night tv, good looking girls in miami, but they shot it in san diego and uh, yeah, I auditioned for it. I got the job and the rest is history lucked out ncis. 

21:57 - Stacey (Host)
How'd you get yes? 

21:59 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
so, ncis, this is a good story, good question. In the acting class I was taking at the time it was the last acting class I ever took uh, there was an actress there and we got along and we started to date. And you know, you, always it's always to work together, let's do a together, that's just code, for I think you're really cute. But so we start seeing each other and she goes hey, dar, you know, I got this audition. And I'm like, okay, great. And then she goes to the callback. And you know, I got a callback, I want to go do a test, the network wants to test me. And so she goes and she gets the show and I'm like, what is it? She goes it's NCIS, naval Criminal Investigation Services. And I was like you're in, you're gold. Well, the girl is Sasha Alexander. 

22:46 - Stacey (Host)
Oh, my gosh. 

22:47 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
They called me in and had me audition for some role and, you know, cut my hair super short and put me in this Army Ranger outfit of some kind, I don't know and I was on the beach helping them, you know, find out who this dead body was. 

23:02
Really nice people. Mark Harmon's a total gentleman. This is us. How did that happen? Audition man, I went into some nondescript building. I swear to God, I went into this building. I'd never, ever gone into before in Beverly Hills, around the corner from our house, Like this is so weird. There's a casting office here. I'd heard of the show, I knew the show was picking up popularity and I got the job. And you know, I get to the set and they put me in this little office. They put up a little tiny pin camera and I'm playing to a camera. Around the corner down the hall is the boardroom scene that I'm talking to these people and they're looking at the screen much like you guys are. In between takes. Sterling, was there? Sterling K Brown? 

23:46
And so we started talking and I don't know something happened. We're talking. I said well, you know, it's funny. You say that my father-in-law was, you know, ralph David Abernathy. Wait, wait, what? What did you say? And I said yeah, you know ralph david abernathy wait, wait, what, what did you say, yeah, and I said, yeah, you know ralph, because you're ralph abernathy's son-in-law. Yeah, I got my mother-in-law on the phone with him and they talked and he was just. He was more tickled than than she was. 

24:12 - Stacey (Host)
Trust me oh my gosh. 

24:14 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
But another sweetheart, sterling's a great guy and then you're on days of Lives. 

24:17 - Stacey (Host)
Were you on that a few times, or was it a cameo role? I was, yeah, no. 

24:21 - Dar Dixon (Guest)
Days of Our Lives. You know I forget Days of Our Lives. I did a couple episodes, I think it was the Young and the Restless. I did about six or seven episodes, the rock and roll, punk rock, turn and burn mentality.